F1 1987 MOD - WIP?

d4nf1c wrote:Thank you for the mention, Sudden, though I must say, giving credit where it's due, the mod is neiln's and using Luigi, Pedro, and other authors as a basis. As I put there on the thread long ago, I was like the mod's PR more than anything else . One thing I've always wondered was why 1987 was so sought after, since both Cristian Luis and a certain DDR have both produced renditions of it. Still, looking forward to seeing the new additions to this marvelous collection of F1 historical seasons. Also sorry for the off-topic, but let me take the opportunity to thank these amazing modders who have kept carrying the torch, like neiln himself, Luigi, dmarques, cherry and so many others. Rooting for CMT to resume its activities. Best wishes, y'all.

cristian Luis did 1987 mod alone, including physics, sounds, track sponsors and race by race variants. his mod, albeit with subpar visuals and poor car models, is quite good when you take into account that he made it with only 13 years old (youngest modder to develop a mod). i learned all i know thanks to him (in fact, i am his successor) and he made a lot of work to grant the possibility of cmt's resurrection before his departing.

the guy is now 27 yo and received two sim-racing job offers, albeit rejected both of them. he retired for good two months ago

cristian's 1987 is a complete low-poly package while DDR has better sounds, presentation and visuals. i prefer ddr, is the best of the two for me

OLarrauri wrote:
cristian's 1987 is a complete low-poly package while DDR has better sounds, presentation and visuals. i prefer ddr, is the best of the two for me

DDR's carset are hella good indeed. However their physics as well as some of their trackpack needs a lot of work or be changed at all, for example Brabham cars can be contenders fighting without problem the allmighty Williams (and some of the atmo cars like Tyrrell and sometimes Lola can go faster even turbo ones) and clearly #2 drivers such Johansson and Nakajima can compete equally (and sometime beat) their #1 drivers (Prost and Senna) So i decide to change their physics with Dimaster´s 1981-2008 physics with some performance tweaks (advices given by the guys of CMT hee hee hee ) reworking all the drivers abilities (thanks again CMT for their knowledge) and changing troublesome tracks (Imola and Jerez i had to change them because continuous CTD, Paul Ricard and Mexico because their .aiw, Hungaroring because a strange bug that sent flying the cars at main straight and SPA and Suzuka because their sponsors didn´t match the year BTW thanks to David M to their trackpack ) The changes in performance were great (altough i tweaked a little bit more in order to get more consistency)

I consider switch Cristian's physics in DRR's carset, but those are too wild So finally i switched to Dimaster ones (are far more friendly and even funny to drive)
I hope CMT would consider made some physics for 1987

Edge_CMT wrote:

OLarrauri wrote:
cristian's 1987 is a complete low-poly package while DDR has better sounds, presentation and visuals. i prefer ddr, is the best of the two for me

DDR's carset are hella good indeed. However their physics as well as some of their trackpack needs a lot of work or be changed at all, for example Brabham cars can be contenders fighting without problem the allmighty Williams (and some of the atmo cars like Tyrrell and sometimes Lola can go faster even turbo ones) and clearly #2 drivers such Johansson and Nakajima can compete equally (and sometime beat) their #1 drivers (Prost and Senna) So i decide to change their physics with Dimaster´s 1981-2008 physics with some performance tweaks (advices given by the guys of CMT hee hee hee ) reworking all the drivers abilities (thanks again CMT for their knowledge) and changing troublesome tracks (Imola and Jerez i had to change them because continuous CTD, Paul Ricard and Mexico because their .aiw, Hungaroring because a strange bug that sent flying the cars at main straight and SPA and Suzuka because their sponsors didn´t match the year BTW thanks to David M to their trackpack ) The changes in performance were great (altough i tweaked a little bit more in order to get more consistency)

I consider switch Cristian's physics in DRR's carset, but those are too wild So finally i switched to Dimaster ones (are far more friendly and even funny to drive)
I hope CMT would consider made some physics for 1987

to me is the best package available

Ok Alfredo, mate, you got me going again!

I'll try to at least finish all the track specific liveries for the last 6 races!

I already heavily revised all the Benetton & Minardi liveries for the first 10...

I received the mod years ago from a friend, and merely decided to re-do some physics-related files of tracks and cars, some odd file here and there, and the track-specific liveries for all of them.
But the actual models are NOT made by me! Unfortunately it was so long ago that I don't have any idea who the actual author is.
Furthermore, once I'm done with the rest of the track-specific liveries, I have no intention of releasing it as a mod, let alone one made by me, but I'm gonna send it all to Alfredo and his team to use it as a base for a final product.

So, please, change the thread title to whatever it originally was!

Kaps wrote:
But the actual models are NOT made by me! Unfortunately it was so long ago that I don't have any idea who the actual author is.
Furthermore, once I'm done with the rest of the track-specific liveries, I have no intention of releasing it as a mod, let alone one made by me, but I'm gonna send it all to Alfredo and his team to use it as a base for a final product.

is not yours? I though so

we will not release the mod as ours. in fact, 1998 - 1998 mods has DavidMarques as its original creator, while CMT is the team who powers the mod (physics, AI and so on), albeit its in alpha version yet

love your honesty. regardless of who has done the work, a final 1987 mod will come with CMT's resurrection

when I have it, I will try to identify the original author

Kaps wrote:I received the mod years ago from a friend, and merely decided to re-do some physics-related files of tracks and cars, some odd file here and there, and the track-specific liveries for all of them.
But the actual models are NOT made by me! Unfortunately it was so long ago that I don't have any idea who the actual author is.
Furthermore, once I'm done with the rest of the track-specific liveries, I have no intention of releasing it as a mod, let alone one made by me, but I'm gonna send it all to Alfredo and his team to use it as a base for a final product.

So, please, change the thread title to whatever it originally was!

Well said, Kaps ... often great credit is given to those who carry out a simple conversion or to those who add stickers to a livery, forgetting the original authors ...
What you said does you honor, making a mod (starting from scratch) is a very hard thing, especially if you don't it has nothing base to start with ... Anyway I really appreciate your honesty.
BRAVO.

.. as far I know, the original mod (for F1c) was made by Neiln & Carlson1984...

Luigi 70 wrote:.. as far I know, the original mod (for F1c) was made by Neiln & Carlson1984...

Could be, but I'm really not sure.

In fact, if I remember correctly, I believe it was a guy with the nick Pioneero, who gave me the link which lead to some Brazilian site...

Not 100% sure, but that's what I think it was...I could be wrong, tho.