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Post by Sicali_2 Tue 26 May - 22:07

hi everyone,

I'm currently playing DM's 1983 mod, and I'm having some issues with the other cars' relative performance - Stefan Johansson getting pole position by 2s, Theodores on the podium, Alfas winning races, stuff like that.

I have tried editing the rcd files and the cars' hdv files (mass, inertia, front & rear wing drag and lift, body drag), but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Has anyone else come across this unrealistic performance in the mod? Any ideas as to how I can address this?

Thanks

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Post by MFA Tue 26 May - 23:43

Here are the .RCD files that I use for all seasons. File 01 is the best and file 26 is the worst. But on the wet track I reversed the order to make the game more unpredictable. But in general, both in qualifying and racing, cars follow this order almost always.

Of course, in the rest of the car configurations they are all the same. Same engine, same HDV, damage, gear_ratios, HeadPhysics.

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Post by Sicali_2 Wed 27 May - 18:34

Thanks Smile I would like to have some differences in the hdv, if possible. I like to keep the mods untouched in terms of physics, but it seems that for this mod the order keeps staying weird even if I make the hdvs quite similar. Could it be down to tyre ini?

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Post by F1CDriver Wed 27 May - 20:07

I always make a copy of HDV.file for the second driver in the team because it was big result difference in some teams. Remember  Piquet and Rebaque or Senna vs. Andretti.
in the reality there was a big gap between top 3 and the cars which drive on the last positions and they were overlapped  many times.
in the game overlapping doesnt work perfectly and top-drivers lose many seconds behind them.
It  made for me easy to  use this situation and drive through. I decided to make all driver with similar power , so 22-nd driver is loosing 1,5-1,8 sec  in the qualifying.  I know its wrong, but in the race it is also exciting to fight  against the drivers on the middle positions.
And the slowest cars will be overlapped max. 3 times.

I use:
the same RPM  in engine.ini.
Drag base the same for all
RCD Q Ability and Race abylity
1) 2.1
2) 2.3 -2.4
+ 0.3 for every next car.

If some driver is  still strong in qualifying I degrease  Drag Base to make him  a little slower.

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Post by Sicali_2 Thu 28 May - 18:19

wait, decreasing BodyDragBase makes them slower? I thought it would make them faster

For example, Watchy's 1997 mod Williams (0.3687) vs Minardi (0.3989)

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Post by F1CDriver Thu 28 May - 18:28

Sicali_2 wrote:wait, decreasing BodyDragBase makes them slower? I thought it would make them faster

For example, Watchy's 1997 mod Williams (0.3687) vs Minardi (0.3989)

in this case the minardi's drag base bigger than the williams'es, so, Williams is faster

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Post by Sicali_2 Thu 28 May - 18:54

F1CDriver wrote:
Sicali_2 wrote:wait, decreasing BodyDragBase makes them slower? I thought it would make them faster

For example, Watchy's 1997 mod Williams (0.3687) vs Minardi (0.3989)

in this case the minardi's drag base bigger than the williams'es, so, Williams is faster

Yep, that's what I meant. So if a driver/car is too fast, I need to increase the BodyDragBase to make them slower.

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Post by F1CDriver Thu 28 May - 19:08

Sicali_2 wrote:
F1CDriver wrote:
Sicali_2 wrote:wait, decreasing BodyDragBase makes them slower? I thought it would make them faster

For example, Watchy's 1997 mod Williams (0.3687) vs Minardi (0.3989)

in this case the minardi's drag base bigger than the williams'es, so, Williams is faster

Yep, that's what I meant. So if a driver/car is too fast, I need to increase the BodyDragBase to make them slower.


I meant increase to make the number bigger Smile

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Post by Sicali_2 Sun 21 Jun - 13:51

Found the issue, I had to match drivers' names in rcd and veh files (remove the (1983) at the end)

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Post by Cristian Luis Fri 10 Jul - 3:35

Sicali_2 wrote:Found the issue, I had to match drivers' names in rcd and veh files (remove the (1983) at the end)

That's a very common error!
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